Encoderfags R Us

TL;DR at bottom.

[08:05]    –>|    Hiwatari ([email protected]) has joined #commie
[08:06]    <Hiwatari>    @find eden
[08:09]    <IGChris>    Eden movie isn’t done yet.
[08:09]    <IGChris>    Unless you were just looking for the raw
[08:13]    <Hiwatari>    looking for the one by YAE
[08:13]    <Hiwatari>    preliminary db-gg one
[08:13]    <Hiwatari>    the avi version sucks
[08:13]    <Hiwatari>    the subs are too small
[08:13]    <Hiwatari>    i’m intending to edit the subs and encode it myself
[08:15]    <IGChris>    The YAE one doesn’t have any typesetting and just has poorly timed non-final subs from what I know
[08:16]    <IGChris>    Oh, so you just needed the .ass file then?
[08:16]    <IGChris>    Or were you planning to re-encode the YAE enocode?
[08:20]    <epl>    isnt the yae ver before it was qc too
[08:21]    <Hiwatari>    re-encode
[08:21]    <Hiwatari>    if it’s poorly timed, i’ll just time it again using aegis subs
[08:21]    <Hiwatari>    the subs for the avi version is too small
[08:21]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    Hurr
[08:22]    <Hiwatari>    i watch it on the tv
[08:22]    <Hiwatari>    not on pc
[08:22]    <IGChris>    Yeah, the YAE one is cryptw’s encode with some scripts I found on the gg site cause someone posted them on a thread I happened to be linked to on /a/
[08:22]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    How did people figure out YAE=us
[08:22]    <epl>    re-encode is not the best thing
[08:22]    <IGChris>    no idea
[08:22]    <epl>    unless your re-encoding off the bd iso
[08:23]    <IGChris>    ^ what epl said, I’m not gonna stop you though if that’s what you want to do
[08:23]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    But I will!
[08:23]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    STARLIGHT….
[08:26]    <Hiwatari>    well, i’ve done quite a few re-encodes
[08:26]    <Hiwatari>    with zero loss of quality
[08:26]    <Hiwatari>    most of them turn out pretty well
[08:27]    <Hiwatari>    i like to do the subs my own way
[08:27]    <Hiwatari>    really if you tested the db-gg avi version on a tv
[08:27]    <Hiwatari>    the subs is too small
[08:27]    <epl>    there is always quality lost when you re-encode
[08:27]    <epl>    no matter what you do
[08:27]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    >zero loss of quality
[08:27]    <Hiwatari>    well, very little
[08:27]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    I lold
[08:27]    <Hiwatari>    i use 3-pass encoding
[08:27]    <Tai>    You’re using lagarinth? D:
[08:27]    <epl>    3-pass encoding?
[08:27]    <Hiwatari>    yup
[08:28]    <epl>    that is pretty pointless
[08:28]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    In before megui
[08:28]    <Hiwatari>    well for me, i can see the diff btwn 2-pass and 3-pass
[08:28]    <Thesis>    there’s no real difference
[08:28]    <epl>    its like a placebo effect
[08:28]    <Thesis>    it just make you feel like there is
[08:28]    <Hiwatari>    well try using Gspot on a 2-pass video and a 3-pass one
[08:28]    <Hiwatari>    you’ll see the difference
[08:29]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    ….in what? Bitrate?
[08:29]    <IGChris>    ^^ this guy clearly is a pro encoder and knows what he’s talking about
[08:29]    <IGChris>    YOU’LL SEE THE DIFFERENCE GUYS
[08:29]    <Hiwatari>    bitrate is one
[08:29]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    TASTE THE SUNSHINE
[08:29]    <Billhelm_II>    I bet he encodes for Funimation’s youtube episodes.
[08:30]    <Hiwatari>    nah lol
[08:30]    <Hiwatari>    funimation’s subs
[08:30]    <Hiwatari>    are more disappointing than fansub groups
[08:30]    <IGChris>    …
[08:30]    <Thesis>    <Hiwatari> bitrate is one <- wut?
[08:31]    <Hiwatari>    bitrate is one of the differences btwn a 2-pass video compared to a 3-pass one
[08:31]    <Tai>    um… lol
[08:31]    <Hiwatari>    it may be negligible
[08:31]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    lol ^.^
[08:31]    <Hiwatari>    but for anime videos
[08:31]    <Hiwatari>    it is true
[08:31]    <Tai>    passes are mainly to decide placement of bitrate, am i rite?
[08:31]    <Hiwatari>    i tried it and saw for myself
[08:31]    <Hiwatari>    yup
[08:31]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    What are you using to encode Hiwatari?
[08:32]    <Hiwatari>    you mean the format?
[08:32]    <Hiwatari>    i’m using xvid
[08:32]    <IGChris>    D:
[08:32]    <epl>    LOL
[08:32]    <Hiwatari>    i need to run it on a standalone
[08:32]    <IGChris>    D’:
[08:32]    <Thesis>    D=
[08:32]    <epl>    nice trolling
[08:32]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    What are you encoding it with?
[08:32]    <IGChris>    LOLLED SO HARD
[08:32]    <Tai>    lolz
[08:32]    <Billhelm_II>    This man knows his shit.
[08:32]    <Thesis>    sure xvid is lossless =3
[08:33]    <IGChris>    inb4 Hiwatari is cryptw here to troll from afar
[08:33]    <Hiwatari>    well it depends on how u resize it and stuff like that
[08:33]    <Billhelm_II>    Pfft.
[08:33]    <Thesis>    ahahahahahahahha oh wow
[08:33]    <Hiwatari>    of course if i were not to change the resolution
[08:33]    <Hiwatari>    the loss is near zero
[08:33]    <Hiwatari>    it depends on how you do it really
[08:34]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    loling so hard right now
[08:34]    <Thesis>    take note guys, being lossless depends on how you resize your stuff
[08:34]    <Hiwatari>    ok
[08:34]    <Hiwatari>    how do you guys define loss?
[08:34]    <Hiwatari>    if you are here to troll
[08:34]    <Hiwatari>    then shut the fuck up
[08:34]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    –crf 0
[08:34]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    lags
[08:34]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    Huffyuv
[08:34]    <Thesis>    Hiwatari, you are the one trolling
[08:34]    <Tai>    hyuff
[08:34]    <Hiwatari>    i’m not trolling
[08:35]    <Hiwatari>    look at what you guys are typing
[08:35]    <Hiwatari>    the “tone” and such
[08:35]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    Those are the 3 accepted formats of lossless
[08:35]    <Hiwatari>    well what are they?
[08:35]    <Tai>    hiwatari, if at xvid you have “loseless gradients” then teach me how
[08:35]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    Codecs
[08:35]    <Hiwatari>    and how do you define lossless?
[08:35]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    I just told you
[08:35]    <IGChris>    Hiwatari: I define loss a difference between the original video and the re-enocded video.
[08:35]    <Thesis>    no quality loss
[08:36]    <Hiwatari>    ok then i think Tai you may know better than me in video encoding
[08:36]    <Hiwatari>    whatever then
[08:36]    <Hiwatari>    suit urself
[08:37]    <IGChris>    Fuuuuuuuuuck when did get to be 8:36 AM
[08:37]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    Lolz
[08:37]    <Hiwatari>    same to RHExcelion too
[08:37]    <Hiwatari>    if you guys like to fuck around
[08:37]    <Hiwatari>    go fuck around yourself
[08:37]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    Hiwatari mind going to #darkhold and explainjng your version of lossless
[08:37]    <Hiwatari>    yes i mind
[08:38]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    I think they have what youre looking for
[08:38]    <Hiwatari>    i don’t like wasting time with a bunch of fucktards
[08:38]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    We’re too low level for you here
[08:38]    <IGChris>    Sorry Hiwatari, it’s a little difficult to not mess with someone who claims they can re-encode from an existing encode losslessly
[08:38]    <Thesis>    ^
[08:38]    <IGChris>    … using xvid
[08:38]    <Thesis>    IGChris, add that he does it with xvid
[08:38]    <Thesis>    yeah
[08:39]    <Thesis>    and also yeah, we are fags (?)
[08:40]    <Hiwatari>    well look at the way you guys are talking
[08:40]    <Hiwatari>    if you aren’t fags who is?
[08:40]    <Hiwatari>    anyway i’m outta here
[08:40]    <IGChris>    no, we are just guys that like to fuck around and fuck ourselves
[08:40]    <IGChris>    not fags
[08:40]    <IGChris>    totally different
[08:40]    <Hiwatari>    yea whatever
[08:40]    <IGChris>    ok, laters Hiwatari
[08:40]    <Hiwatari>    and to say u aren’t trolling
[08:40]    <Hiwatari>    ok laters IGChris
[08:40]    <Hiwatari>    thanks for the bang
[08:40]    <IGChris>    good luck with your encoding and stuff
[08:41]    <Thesis>    I guess ppl just don’t like to hear that they are doing it wrong
[08:41]    <IGChris>    I guess not…
[08:41]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    I think there are too many encoderfags in here :3
[08:42]    <IGChris>    I wish you could just rename channels
[08:42]    <IGChris>    cause that would be the perfect name for this channel
[08:42]    <IGChris>    #encoderfags
[08:42]    <Thesis>    lol
[08:45]    <edogawaconan>    lol
[08:45]    <IGChris>    oh lol
[08:47]    <Hiwatari>    no it’s not that i don’t like to hear that i’m doing it wrong
[08:47]    <Hiwatari>    like i said, it’s the “tone” of you fuckers
[08:48]    <IGChris>    Hear that? It’s the “tone” of you *fuckers*
[08:48]    <IGChris>    Goddamn cunt rag ass shit head cock fucking slut faggots watch your fucking tone
[08:48]    <commander`A>    you guys been bad boys again?
[08:49]    <IGChris>    before I do a FOURTH pass on my xvid encode!
[08:49]    <Thesis>    xD
[08:49]    <Hiwatari>    yea do a FOURTH pass on your own ass
[08:49]    <commander`A>    Hiwatari: pro tip: don’t let them get to you :p
[08:49]    <Thesis>    this chan is just too much fun =3
[08:49]    <IGChris>    I agree
[08:49]    <Billhelm_II>    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lossless_compression
[08:49]    <IGChris>    It was better when freya was in here though…
[08:49]    <Billhelm_II>    ^read that
[08:59]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    Throw up the log somewhere

TL;DR highlights:

[08:26]    <Hiwatari>    well, i’ve done quite a few re-encodes
[08:26]    <Hiwatari>    with zero loss of quality
[08:31]    <Hiwatari>    bitrate is one of the differences btwn a 2-pass video compared to a 3-pass one
[08:31]    <RHExcelion|Phone>    What are you using to encode Hiwatari?
[08:32]    <Hiwatari>    you mean the format?
[08:32]    <Hiwatari>    i’m using xvid

<Butthurt rage here>

[08:47]    <Hiwatari>    no it’s not that i don’t like to hear that i’m doing it wrong
[08:48]    <IGChris>    Hear that? It’s the “tone” of you *fuckers*
[08:48]    <IGChris>    Goddamn cunt rag ass shit head cock fucking slut faggots watch your fucking tone
[08:49]    <IGChris>    before I do a FOURTH pass on my xvid encode!